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WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

The Failed Mutiny in Russia and the Fate of Vladimir Putin

WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

4.6591 Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

After an abortive mutiny by Wagner Group leader and mercenary Yevgeny Prigozhin, is Vladimir Putin "damaged goods" as the leader of Russia? On this episode of the Free Expression Podcast, former Ambassador to both Russia and China Jon Huntsman tells Wall Street Journal editor at large Gerry Baker why Prigozhin was exiled to Belarus while other Putin rivals have met a far worse fate, what the U.S. response should be, its effect on the Ukraine counteroffensive and why China may already be preparing for a new leadership in Russia.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

from the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal. This is Free Expression with Jerry Baker.

0:08.4

Hello and welcome to the Free Expression podcast with me, Jerry Baker from the Wall Street Journal editorial page.

0:14.3

If you're not already a subscriber to Free Expression, please do sign up wherever you get your podcasts.

0:19.0

This week, Russia. What exactly is going on there?

0:23.7

Now, Winston Churchill famously described Russia as a riddle in a mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

0:28.7

That description has probably never been more apt than it is right now. The abortive

0:32.7

mutiny led by restaurateur turned gangster, turned mercenary leader Y Yvgeny Prygosen last weekend,

0:38.7

has raised more questions than answers about the condition of one of the world's most important

0:42.9

nuclear powers, a nation at war, no less. The more we learn about the attempted putch,

0:48.6

the more curious, it seems. What was the aim of the Wagner Group's leader? Was he trying to seize

0:54.0

power for himself, or just force a change in Russia's military leadership?

0:58.4

How much inside assistance did he have from the military?

1:02.2

Why did he back off when his moment of opportunity seemed to be at hand?

1:05.7

And why, despite his promise to punish the mutineers, did Vladimir Putin wind up striking a deal with

1:11.8

progosion that, at least on the face of it, seems to leave the Wagner leader at liberty.

1:16.2

Has Putin himself been weakened by the events of the last week? And what does it all mean for the war in

1:20.0

Ukraine? And the United States continuing support for Kiev's counteroffensive? And where, of course,

1:25.9

does it leave the Russia-China alliance that

1:28.3

Putin has forged with Xi Jinping? Well, to try to answer all these questions and more, I'm joined by

1:33.1

former U.S. Ambassador Moscow and Beijing, John Huntsman. Huntsman has served in every single

1:38.6

U.S. administration of both parties since that of Ronald Reagan, not including the current one of Joe

1:43.9

Biden. He was governor of Utah

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