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From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, This is the best of Free Expression with Jerry Baker. Welcome to Free Expression with me, Jerry Baker from the Wall Street Journal editorial page. Delighted you're joining us. You're not already a subscriber. Please do subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Benjamin Nesson Yahoo joins me now. Prime Minister, thanks very much for joining us. My pleasure. You mentioned Iran, of course, then. You've talked a lot about it and there's a lot of concern about it right now here in the United States, too. One of the fascinating things in your book is, of course, you recount your various discussions with American presidents, particularly President Obama, with whom you had profound disagreements on Iran. The Biden administration came in trying to

resurrect the JCPOA, the nuclear deal that essentially lifts economic sanctions on Iran in

exchange for some, what I think most of us would agree, would say were fairly minor concessions

in terms of its nuclear program. That obviously seems to be going nowhere. What's your sense

here of firstly the threat from Iran, as we're getting all this

information that it is accelerating its nuclear program, and secondly, what could possibly be

done outside a JCPOA tape arrangement to deter them from proceeding with that? Well, first, I think there's

a change in Washington as I sense it. I've had direct talks with the U.S. administration, but I sense a change

because of the unmasking of Iran's true nature for the entire world to see. The courtesy of the

extraordinarily brave Iranian men and extraordinarily brave Iranian women who are fighting for

freedom, for basic freedoms. And you can see the horrific nature of this regime.

It's murderous nature.

It's killing them in the streets.

And yet they stand up and protest for their rights.

And I think that's changed attitudes everywhere, including in Washington, and that's good.

We have to understand that the nuclear agreement does not stop Iran from pursuing its nuclear weapons program.

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