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Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

The Factors That Make or Break a Business | Ankur Jain and Alex Fiance

Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

Dr. Michael Gervais

Sport Psychology, Finding Mastery, Mental Health, Mindfulness, Business, Self Help, Michael Gervais, Health & Fitness, Mindset, Psychology, Self-improvement, Education

4.71.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2021

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

This week’s conversation is with Alex Fiance and Ankur Jain, the co-founder’s and co-CEO’s of Kairos.

Kairos is focused on solutions that can help solve the affordability crisis for the everyday consumer.

Alex has been leading Kairos since 2013, transforming the company from its roots as a student-run organization into its current focus on building a family of brands designed to make life more affordable.

Ankur launched Kairos in 2008 as a talent incubator and has been recognized for a variety of achievements including the Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum in 2017.

You may remember Alex from the mini-series we did a few years ago called “The Process” where we learned about young entrepreneurs tackling some of the world’s biggest problems.

Considering how many people are struggling to get by right now, I thought this would be a timely moment to have Alex back on, along with Ankur.

I wanted them to catch us up to speed… What progress they have made? And how have they adjusted where they were wrong?

Alex was early on the journey when we first chatted and now he’s earning his stripes…

One of the companies we discussed during “The Process” called Rhino just announced they raised $95 million, valuing the company at just under $500 million…. a huge milestone for Kairos.

In this conversation, we discuss the affordability crisis, the factors that can make or break a business, and what role luck plays in all of this.

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you can be doing well and you can be making the cash flow needed to cover your expenses as you're

0:06.0

making it but you never make enough to be able to put it away and have a meaningful dent as a

0:11.9

backup and that rat race I think is what causes so much anxiety and stress for everybody and what

0:18.0

you've seen throughout this season's last year with COVID has just been so damn stressful because

0:24.1

something trips and what do you do so we've been talking about that stat mic for four years

0:30.7

and the fact that COVID was this grand accelerant this black swan that no one ever predicted

0:36.4

but we were already aware that the average person's hanging by a threat which is why this has been

0:40.7

especially scary okay welcome back or welcome to if you're new here to the Finding Mastery

0:56.4

podcast on Michael Jurvey and by trade and training I am a sport and performance psychologist

1:02.2

and the whole idea behind these conversations is to learn from people who have committed their

1:06.8

life efforts towards mastering what does that mean that means that we want to understand when

1:12.9

they're looking at the frames whatever frames of movement that we're talking about whether it's

1:18.9

the frames of business or the frames of parenting or the frames of sport that they are not looking at

1:24.8

the frames that most of us are looking at frame one to frame two to frame three but they're actually

1:30.9

looking at the space in between the frames now what does that mean it's just that they see things

1:36.4

differently because they've spent so much time trying to understand the nuances of either self

1:44.0

or craft and the conversations we're most interested in are with those people who haven't

1:50.0

understanding of both and we want to understand what these extraordinary people are searching for

1:56.5

how they organize their inner life and how they use their thinking both mental skills and

2:02.8

perspectives to be able to live in the present moment more often. Finding Mastery is brought to you

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more comfortable world. They began with a single product that disrupted a 30-year-old industry that

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