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The Commentary Magazine Podcast

The Explorer's Dilemma

The Commentary Magazine Podcast

Commentary Magazine

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.65.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

James B. Meigs joins the podcast today to talk about the submersible that seems to have disappeared on its way to the bottom of the ocean on a Titanic viewing expedition. Why are we so obsessed with this story, and what does it say about our view of exploration as a whole? And what do the horrific learning-loss statistics tell us about where America is going when our kids are learning nothing? Give a listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh, for the best, it's like the worst, some preachin' pain, some die of thirst.

0:15.0

The way of knowing which way it's going, oh for the best, it's like the worst, oh for the best.

0:24.3

Welcome to the commentary magazine Daily Podcast. Today is Wednesday June 21st, 2023. I am John

0:30.6

Puthhoritz, the editor of commentary magazine with me as always, executive editor A. Grimwald

0:36.2

Hyade. Hi John. Media commentary columnist, an American enterprise institute senior fellow,

0:41.9

Christine Rosen, Hykristine. Hi John. Matt Kahnetti is out today, joining us in his stead is

0:48.6

our tech commentary columnist and Manhattan Institute fellow James B. Megs. Hi Jim.

0:54.8

Hey John. Jim, you are the kind of person who when something like a submersible starts sinking

1:06.9

rapidly in the ocean actually has a considered opinion on this on this matter. I was struck yesterday

1:17.1

in a hotel room and the day before by the depth, pardon the pun, of the coverage of this

1:28.7

missing exploration sub that takes people to see the Titanic all three morning newscasts

1:36.1

led with it and not only led with it but went 10, 12 minutes with it and it's a billionaire

1:43.4

and some other rich people spending a quarter of a million dollars to go in this sub to look at

1:47.9

the Titanic and I'm not really sure why I should care until I talk to a couple of people and apparently

1:56.0

this is just the very thought of it causes people to start having claustrophobia and dread like

2:04.7

you're in a sub but you're sinking your air is running out you can't get out you're 10,000

2:09.8

people of the surface and apparently this thought alone makes this a huge news story because almost

2:16.3

anybody can essentially place themselves almost instantly in the in the position of the people on

2:26.1

the sub absent the $250,000 fee to get to board the sub so that in in new story terms there's

2:36.7

something primordial about the idea that you're somewhere you're trapped you're trapped in the ocean

2:43.2

and the air is running out yeah it's it's it is a primordial kind of of fear it's also the kind of

2:52.4

news story that historically has has just fascinated people you know the the when the the kids were

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