The Explorer Mindset with Simona Pop | Layer Zero
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🗓️ 26 April 2022
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
This episode takes place in the geographical heart of Layer Zero: the middle of DevConnect, the 2022 Amsterdam conference. With the backdrop of a lively conference center, Simona Pop explores heavy topics like the 1989 Romanian Revolution and the pitfalls of DAO governance.
When you cut off the head of top-down totalitarianism, you must replace it with something better—otherwise, another hydra head will appear. Simona thrives on the cutting edge of big problems like these, working on DAO Engagement Strategy at Gitcoin, Community Strategy at Status, and founding the Bounties Network.
When Simona talks about crypto and the Web3 space, the epic proportions of this moment in history become clear and present.
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Topics Covered:
5:00 Simona, Amsterdam, and Real Life
8:55 A Revolutionary Childhood
12:45 Successful Evolutions
18:03 The Wheel of Time
25:00 The Governance Problem
30:30 This is Water
37:00 Replacing Nation States
40:55 Generational Change
48:50 Status and Networks
55:34 Why Simona’s Optimistic
58:44 Working for DAOs
1:02:41 Advice for Noobs
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| 0:00.0 | I'm a little bit of a child of the revolution and I know what it's like to not have freedoms |
| 0:06.4 | of expression, travel, all of that and I think it's very, very important and very ingrained |
| 0:13.4 | clearly in me to be able to enable that for other people. |
| 0:19.7 | Welcome to Layer 0. |
| 0:21.0 | Layer 0 is a podcast of unscripted conversations with the people that make up the Ethereum |
| 0:25.3 | community. |
| 0:26.3 | Layer 0 is built by code which is composed by people and each individual member of the |
| 0:29.9 | crypto community has their own story to tell. |
| 0:33.0 | CypherPunks understood that the code they write impacts the people that use it and Layer |
| 0:36.6 | 0 focuses on the people behind the code because Ethereum is people all the way down and always |
| 0:41.4 | has been. |
| 0:42.4 | Today on Layer 0, I'm speaking with Simona Pop and we recorded this episode in the middle |
| 0:47.1 | of DevConnect and so there is a big conference room, a co-working space where a lot of people |
| 0:51.7 | are heads down, building whatever it is that they're building so there's a little bit |
| 0:55.3 | of background chatter but hopefully that adds to the vibe rather than detract from it. |
| 1:00.6 | We talk a lot about governance and Simona is a child of the Romanian Freedom Revolution |
| 1:07.2 | from the Eastern block, from Russia's dominance with Communism and so she was very, very young |
| 1:14.5 | when the revolution in Romania happened and broke Romania free from Communism and we |
| 1:21.0 | used this as a metaphor to discuss Dow governance of all things. |
| 1:26.1 | She talks about how yes, you can cut off the head of top down totalitarian Communism |
| 1:32.1 | but you have to also replace that with something else or else the same sort of structure just |
| 1:38.6 | grows back in its place and so we take this idea of if we are going to kill something, |
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