one of expectations that I think John Adams had during his president coming into his presidency as we talked about a little bit before about you know here's this great figure in Washington and now you're going to succeed him. Are there any parallels that we can't

are there any parallels that we can learn that learned from as

citizens looking at this to the through the lens of

history but also the expectation surrounding a common I have potential

Kamala Harris presidency as the first female president.

I mean people, I mean, that's some heavy stuff folks.

I don't care how you cut it at it.

Okay, first black president totally get it. Yeah, big deal.

Obama. This for me feels different when it comes to that sense of expectation when you consider how this country still looks at

women yeah just to put it in blunt terms. Oh yeah. Glass ceiling. It's it is like. Yeah. So. Yeah, so

what was the first part of the question.

For those of you who are listening to this

to see your car, you should say, I'm going to describe the face Lindsay just gave in trying to, you know, posit that question in her head.

It was more like, okay, what the hell am I going to do with this one and where do I go because

Hmm, I need a I need something stronger in my water than

Yeah, this is not a water question. So first in terms of what we can

learn is as citizens, you know, the lesson that I really took away from writing this book is that in moments of crises,

we don't need military heroicism or incredible genius. We just need people to put the

Constitution above their own partisan interests.

Oh, damn, there it is right there.

Yep. I know.

And the people who often did so in this book that made such huge difference are not necessarily even names we remember.

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