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GoodFellows: Conversations on Economics, History & Geopolitics

The Eternal Optimist: H.R. McMaster on Combat, Faith, and Turning Down the Funk | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution

GoodFellows: Conversations on Economics, History & Geopolitics

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News, News Commentary, News:news Commentary, Politics, Government

4.6717 Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

What inspires a young boy to dream about a career in the US Army and then, after graduating from West Point, manage to prepare for—and survive—combat? In a “solo” installment of GoodFellows, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, Hoover’s Fouad and Michelle Ajami Senior Fellow, a former national security advisor to the president, and a highly honored combat veteran, discusses his childhood in Philadelphia, the inspiring figures he encountered during his Army years, his roundabout journey to becoming an armor officer, lessons from tank battles in the Middle East, and the importance of faith. He also describes a post-service life in California, where, ironically, an Army man makes sense of world affairs while chillaxing on a paddleboard. Also joining the show: Katie McMaster, who recounts how she and her husband met (it was love at first sight), the challenges of being a military spouse, the day H.R. said goodbye to his head of hair (he shaved his head at her insistence), plus her ongoing campaign to spare her Orange County neighbors from the blare of H.R.’s favorite tunes.  Subscribe to GoodFellows for clarity on today’s biggest social, economic, and geostrategic shifts — only on GoodFellows.

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Hi, this is Bill Whalen from Goodfellows. The Hoover Institution is proud to announce two national competitions honoring the life and work of Thomas Soul, one of the most influential public thinkers of our time.

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For high school and college students, the Thomas Soul essay contest is a chance to engage deeply with his ideas, whether by applying them to a pressing issue in society or by reflecting on how Dr. Sol's writings have shaped

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your own worldview. For creators of all kinds, the multimedia creator competition invites bold,

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thoughtful storytelling and video form, no longer the three minutes, responding to a simple but

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powerful question. What lesson are teaching for Thomas Sol do Americans mostly to learn or remember

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today? Each winner will receive $5,000 plus a pay trip to the Hoover Institution here at Stafford

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University for a special celebration in Dr. Sol's honor.

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Details and submission links are available at the following URL.

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Hoover.org forward slash Thomas dash soul dash legacy.

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Let me repeat that.

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Hoover.org forward slash Thomas dash soul dash legacy. Let me repeat that. Hoover.org forward slash Thomas dash soul dash legacy.

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Good luck.

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We hope to see it here at Hoover in the near future.

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I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know that gasoline smell. A whole hill. It smells like... Victory! Victory. Welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover Institution broadcast examining social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns. I'm Bill Whalen, I'm a distinguished policy fellow here at the Hoover Institution. I'll be your moderator today. This is a point where I usually introduce at least two or three of my colleagues, but today it's just one good fellow joining us, and that is Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster. In case you're meeting the Lieutenant General for the first time, a few things to know about him. He is the Fawad and Michelle a Jolly Senior Fellow here at the Hoover Institution.

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He is, of course, a former presidential national security advisor. He is a best-selling author. As I look over my bookcase, I have two of his most recent books. One is called out war with ourselves. This is about his one-year tour of duty in the first Trump White House. Before that, he wrote the excellent book Battlegrounds, which is also the title of a video series he does for the Hoover Institution interviewing world

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leaders. What else to say about Lieutenant General, HR McMaster, devoted about 35 years of public

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service to his country. And if you follow Goodfellers, he is our resident and veteran optimist.

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HR, it's great to see you.

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Hey, Bill.

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Great to be with you.

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So in quasi-Japanese fashion, HR, I thought we start the show with a exchange of gifts or at least one gift.

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For you, my friend, would you like to open it up and take a look at it?

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