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GoodFellows: Conversations on Economics, History & Geopolitics

Boss Time: Summits, Cold Wars, and Universities, with Condoleezza Rice | GoodFellows | Hoover Institution

GoodFellows: Conversations on Economics, History & Geopolitics

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4.6 • 717 Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

What to expect from this week’s Putin–Trump summit in Alaska? Hoover Institution Director and former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice—no stranger, she, to engaging in statecraft with Russia’s enigmatic president—joins GoodFellows regulars Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster for a spirited conversation about Vladimir Putin’s motives (is the summit only for domestic Russian consumption?), how to characterize the present US-Sino competition (Secretary Rice tossing cold water on “Cold War 2”), plus the sensibility of the Trump administration’s threats to withhold federal research funds from leading universities in order to change campus cultures. Following that, Sir Niall recounts his recent sit-down with Argentinian president Javier Milei (is that nation’s “vibe shift” real or contrived?); and tariff-agnostic John Cochrane assesses the progress of the Trump administration’s ever-evolving trade strategy. Finally, the three panelists discuss the recent 80th anniversary of the only wartime use of atomic weapons and the importance of its annual remembrance.

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Hi, this is Bill Whalen from Goodfellows. The Hoover Institution is proud to announce two national competitions honoring the life and work of Thomas Sol, one of the most influential public thinkers of our time.

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For high school and college students, the Thomas Soul essay contest is a chance to engage deeply with his ideas, whether by applying them to a pressing issue in society or by reflecting on how Dr. Sol's writings have shaped your own worldview.

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no longer the three minutes, responding to a simple but powerful question.

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What lesson are teaching for Thomas Sol do Americans mostly to learn or remember today?

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Each winner will receive $5,000 plus a pay trip to the Hoover Institution here at Stanford University for a special celebration in Dr. Sol's honor.

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Entries are due by August 31. Details and submission links are available at the following URL.

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Hoover.org.

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forward slash Thomas dash soul dash legacy. Let me repeat that. Hoover.org forward

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slash Thomas dash soul dash legacy. Good luck. We hope to see it here at Hoover in the near future.

1:04.8

President Putin invited me to get involved. He wants to get involved. I think, I believe he wants to get it over with.

1:12.1

Now, I've said that a few times, and I've been disappointed because I'd have like a great call with him,

1:18.0

and then missiles would be lobbed into Kiev or some other place, and you'd have 60 people

1:23.0

laying on a road dying. I said, that's cold. That's cold.

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It's Tuesday, August the 12th, 2025, and welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover Institution broadcast examining social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns. I'm Bill Whalen. I'm a

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distinguished policy fellow here at the Hoover Institution, and I'll be our moderator today. Looking forward to a spirit of conversation featuring all three of our good fellows. That would be, of course, the historian, Sir Neil Ferguson, the economist John Cochran, and Lieutenant General, H.R. McMaster, former presidential national security advisor. Neil, John, and H.R. are all Hoover senior fellows. So gentlemen, we're doing two segments

2:01.7

today in our second segment. We're going to go into the side of the hemisphere, talk about

2:05.6

Neil's recent journey to Argentina and his conversation with Javier Malay, and we're going to talk

2:09.7

to John at all about tariffs. But before that, we're going to do a kind of a grab bag of topics.

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We're going to talk about the upcoming Trump Putin summit in Alaska.

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Talk about whether the competition between the United States and China is indeed a Cold War and also the merits of the Trump administration's confrontation with American colleges over the

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question of funding of federal research. So who is qualified to have all of those conversations

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