The Ensh*ttification of Everything with Cory Doctorow

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

The internet is getting shittier. Hell, the whole world is getting shittier. The thing is, it’s no accident—it’s by design. The tech giants who run the internet have figured out how to make bank off of making our everyday experience with the internet worse, and this process is bleeding over into the physical world. This process is called “enshittification”, a term coined by the massively influential tech writer Cory Doctorow. In this episode, Adam sits with Cory to discuss where everything went so wrong as well as Cory’s new book, Enshittification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse and What to Do About It.

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0:00.0	This is a Headgum podcast.
0:05.6	A lot of short daily news podcasts focus on just one story.
0:10.0	But right now, you probably need more.
0:12.8	On Up First from NPR, we bring you three of the world's top headlines every day in under 15 minutes.
0:19.6	Because no one's story can capture all that's happening in this big
0:23.9	crazy world of ours on any given morning listen now to the upfirst podcast from NPR
0:29.3	I don't know the truth I don't know the way I don't know what to think I don't know what to think.
0:39.4	I don't know what to say.
0:42.2	Yeah, but that's all right.
0:44.8	That's okay.
0:47.8	I don't know anything.
0:52.5	Hey there.
0:53.4	Welcome to Faxually.
0:56.7	I'm Adam Conover. Thank you so much for joining me on the show this week.
1:02.1	I'm thrilled you're with us because this week we're talking about how much shittier everything is getting.
1:08.1	Have you noticed that your entire experience of using the internet has gotten worse over the last couple years?
1:12.1	Google now buries your search results under unreliable AI overviews and paid links. Spotify pushes sponsored songs and video podcasts you have no interest in.
1:19.6	And X, the site formerly known as Twitter, is spammed up with bots and Nazis and Nazi botzies.
1:27.2	Social media used to be useful.
1:29.3	You could use it to see what your friends were doing
1:31.4	and spy on your enemies.
1:33.2	But now to do those things,
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