The End of the Golden Era of Arms Control

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🗓️ 8 February 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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As the world grapples again with the dangers of nuclear weapons use, Aaron sat down with Ankit Panda, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Heather Williams, the director of the project on nuclear issues and a senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, to discuss new nuclear dynamics, the meaning of deterrence, and debate about the future of U.S. nuclear weapons strategy.

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0:00.0	You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on Strategy, Defense, Foreign Affairs.
0:15.6	My name is Aaron Stein, Chief Content Officer, and I recently sat down with two friends, Anka Panda
0:22.2	of the Carnegie Endowment and also host of our
0:24.3	Members Only Podcast, Thinking the Unthakeable, and Heather Williams of the Center for
0:28.6	Strategic International Studies Project on Nuclear Issues. We had a long talk about new nuclear dynamics, nuclear
0:35.8	ages, and what deterrence actually means. And now on to the show. Thanks for
0:40.8	doing this at five o'clock on a what what is it?
0:43.2	Wednesday it better be Wednesday a very cold Wednesday let's be clear but but happy to do it
0:48.3	Aaron good to see you yeah so it's a my pleasure and it's a pre-happy hour
0:52.1	podcast the reason I wanted to do this is because on multiple
0:57.5	different podcasts that you've been hosting on KIT, but also in our pages at War on the
1:01.7	rocks is talking about this new nuclear age.
1:05.3	And for people who are in the field, it's staring down a future where the restraints on nuclear
1:12.2	weapons that we have inherited from either during the Cold War or
1:15.7	shortly after the Cold War appear to be ending, or at least will be ending in 2026.
1:22.4	So for those who are sort of waking up to the new nuclear age, what do you mean by
1:27.0	this and what are the dynamics that are driving how people are thinking about it? Maybe I'll start with you on
1:30.5	Kit and then I'll come to you Heather. Yeah, sure, Aaron.
1:32.6	So I think the whole concept of nuclear ages, right,
1:35.4	is something that analysts and scholars construct
1:37.9	to help us make sense of the themes that really define
1:40.6	the role that nuclear weapons play in international politics and so in the scholarship
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