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The End of Everything, Bright Fluorescence, Gene Editing a Squid. August 7, 2020, Part 2

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🗓️ 7 August 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

When it comes to the eventual end of our universe, cosmologists have a few classic theories: the Big Crunch, where the universe reverses its expansion and contracts again, setting the stars themselves on fire in the process. Or the Big Rip, where the universe expands forever—but in a fundamentally unstable way that tears matter itself apart. Or it might be heat death, in which matter and energy become equally distributed in a cold, eventless soup. These theories have continued to evolve as we gain new understandings from particle accelerators and astronomical observations. As our understanding of fundamental physics advances, new ideas about the ending are joining the list. Take vacuum decay, a theory that’s been around since the 1970s, but which gained new support when CERN confirmed detection of the Higgs Boson particle. The nice thing about vacuum decay, writes cosmologist Katie Mack in her new book, The End of Everything: (Astrophysically Speaking), is that it could happen at any time, and would be almost instantaneous—painless, efficient. Mack joins Ira to talk about the diversity of universe-ending theories, and how cosmologists like her think about the big questions, like where the universe started, how it might end, and what happens after it does.  Over the years, researchers have created thousands of chemical dyes that fluoresce in every color of the rainbow—but there’s a catch. Most of those dyes fluoresce most brightly when they’re in a dilute liquid solution. Now, researchers say they’ve created what they call a “plug-and-play” approach to locking those dyes into a solid form, without dimming their light.   The new strategy uses a colorless, donut-shaped molecule called a cyanostar. When combined with fluorescent dye, cyanostar molecules insulate the dye molecules from each other, and allow them to pack closely together in an orderly checkerboard—resulting in brightly-fluorescing solid materials.  Amar Flood, a professor of chemistry at Indiana University, says the new materials can be around thirty times brighter than other materials on a per-volume basis, and the approach works for any number of off-the-shelf dyes—no tweaking required. Flood joins SciFri’s Charles Bergquist to discuss the work and possible applications for the new technology. Scientists at Woods Hole Marine Biological Laboratory recently thrilled the genetics world by announcing they’ve successfully knocked out a gene in squid for the first time.  “I’m like a kid in a candy store with how much opportunity there is now,” says Karen Crawford, one of the researchers and a biology professor at St. Mary’s College of Maryland. Crawford explains this modification has huge implications for the study of genetics: Squids’ big brains mean this work could hold the key to breakthroughs in research for human genetic diseases, like Huntington’s disease and cystic fibrosis. Joining Ira to talk about the news are Crawford and her co-lead on the research, Josh Rosenthal, a senior scientist at the Marine Biological Laboratory in Woods Hole, Massachusetts.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Iroflato. A bit later in the hour, scientists have created the first

0:06.2

genetically altered squid. We'll talk about why that's a big deal. But first, one day, the

0:12.6

universe is going to end. Not just the Earth, not even just our galaxy, all of it. Every star,

0:20.1

every nebula, nothing we have ever done will remain. My next guest

0:24.9

is someone who has spent a lot of her time thinking about the end. More specifically, how will

0:30.7

that ending happen? There are, it turns out, a lot of possibilities for the end of something

0:36.3

as infinitely large and massively

0:38.7

energetic as our universe. Try the big crunch or the big rip. How about heat death or my favorite

0:46.2

vacuum decay? But which will it be? Will it be fast or slow? How soon could it happen? Would we get a new

0:53.1

big bang at the end of it all, and a new

0:55.3

universe of stars and planets? The jury is still out, but telescopes and particle colliders are giving

1:01.6

us clues to what may come. And here to help us wrap our head around the finite nature of our

1:06.3

infinity is Dr. Katie Mack, who tackles our universal demise in her new book, The End of Everything.

1:12.7

Dr. Mack is a cosmologist and assistant professor of physics at North Carolina State

1:17.4

University in Raleigh. Welcome, Dr. Mack. Hello, thanks. Thanks for having me.

1:21.7

So tell me, I've got to say this, this is an awfully cheerful book about the end of the universe.

1:26.8

Is that how you feel? I think I'm just excited

1:30.2

about big things happening in the universe. And I guess I have some professional remove from the

1:37.3

idea of everything really ending. Although there are some points in the book where I do

1:41.9

sort of wrestle with that idea that, you know,

1:45.0

we will have no legacy in the cosmos ultimately, and that is a scary idea. But it's fun to

1:50.1

think about these big, powerful, destructive forces. Does that bother you that we're not going to

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