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Biden Climate Plan, Boiling River. August 7, 2020, Part 1

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🗓️ 7 August 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Last month, Vice President Joe Biden unveiled his plan for climate change—a sweeping $2 trillion dollar platform that aims to tighten standards for clean energy, decarbonize the electrical grid by 2035, and reach carbon neutrality for the whole country by 2050. Biden’s plan, like the Green New Deal, purports to create millions of jobs at a time when people are reeling financially from the pandemic—proposing employment opportunities including retrofitting buildings, converting electrical grids and vehicles, and otherwise transforming the country into an energy efficient, emissions-free economy. But are the foundations of this plan on solid scientific ground? Yes, say Ira’s guests, political scientist Leah Stokes and energy systems engineer Sally Benson. Stokes and Benson run through Biden’s proposals, explaining what’s ambitious, what’s pragmatic, and what people might show up to vote for. Deep in the largest rainforest of Latin America is the Peruvian Boiling River, a name earned from water that can reach 100°C—or about 212°F.  While the river is hot enough to cook any animal unfortunate enough to wind up in it, its microbes don’t mind. They can handle the heat—and their odd survival mechanisms might have medicinal value.  Joining Ira to talk about these tiny heat-seekers and the Peruvian Boiling River is Rosa Vásquez Espinoza, a Ph.D. candidate in chemical biology at the University of Michigan.  See photos and video of Rosa Vásquez Espinoza’s expedition to the Boiling River and learn more about her research on extreme microbes in a feature article on SciFri.  It’s been a busy week for science news. Cities are still grappling with COVID-19, and in New York City, previously the country’s largest coronavirus hotspot, health commissioner Oxiris Barbot has resigned. She cited Mayor Bill de Blasio’s handling of the pandemic as her reason for doing so, issuing a scathing statement on her way out the door. Barbot is just one of the many health officials around the country who have butted heads with the politicians that oversee them during the pandemic. And across the world, devastating explosions in Beirut, Lebanon have injured thousands and killed several dozen. As officials piece together why this happened, they’re pointing to a warehouse of ammonium nitrate as the source of the blasts.  Joining Ira to talk about these stories, and other science news of the week, is Sophie Bushwick, technology editor at Scientific American in New York, New York.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. A bit later in the hour, we'll talk about the climate plan Joe Biden has unveiled if he becomes president, and we'll take a journey to the Peruvian jungle to see a boiling river.

0:13.1

First, it was a big week for science news with COVID-19 still in full swing and tropical storm Isaias hitting the eastern U.S.

0:22.9

here to talk us through the big stories of the week.

0:25.5

Sophie Bushwick, technology editor at Scientific American in New York.

0:29.5

Welcome back, Sophie.

0:30.7

Thank you.

0:31.7

Let's start with a story that's close to home for both of us.

0:35.2

New York City's health commissioner resigned this week.

0:38.9

What led to that? So Dr. Oxiris Barbo has resigned, and she said in her letter of

0:45.3

resignation that she was disappointed with the way that Mayor Bill de Blasio handled the pandemic.

0:51.3

And throughout the pandemic, the health department and the mayor's office have clashed.

0:56.3

There has been arguments that the health department was sidelined and that responsibilities,

1:01.3

such as the contact tracing program, were put under the purview of the city hospital system

1:06.3

instead of the health department, which has a history of doing that task.

1:10.1

You know, we're seeing this kind of conflict between health officials and other leadership

1:15.2

and other parts of the country, are we not?

1:17.6

Yes, this is happening everywhere.

1:19.2

If you just, you know, do an internet search for health officials and resigned, you can

1:24.7

see that in states all over the country, states and municipalities,

1:28.0

that there are clashes between health departments and mayors and governors and other leaders.

1:35.0

Is it because the mayors and governors are not taking the advice of these health officials?

1:39.5

A lot of times, yes, there's a disagreement in how the pandemic is being handled, The types of restrictions that are being put into place or in some cases not being put into place make it really hard for the health departments to do their job. And some of them feel like if their advice isn't being followed, that they're really unable to help.

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