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Hey, everybody. Welcome to a very special episode of the virtual couch. I'm your host, Tony Overbay. I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist, certified mindful habit coach, writer, speaker, husband, father, or four. And so excited to get to today's episode. Today, I am sharing this bonus episode of an interview that I

was on on my good friends, Steph and Craig's podcast, the aptly name Stefan Craig Show.

Steph and Craig were on my podcast a few months ago and the episode was about taking the scenic

route in your relationship because they have both

been through a lot of amazing, wonderful things in their lives that they've acknowledged they

would not take any of them back, but they have really been on a journey, a deep dive,

learned so much about themselves. So I pulled up the introduction to the podcast to their

appearance on the virtual couch a little while

ago. And I think this will, this will give you an idea of who Stefan Craig are. In that episode,

in the introduction, I said, Stefan Craig shared their remarkable journey from meeting as a police

officer and dispatcher to becoming relationship content creators who are being radically

vulnerable. They don't hold back because they discuss the chaos of their early relationship,

blending families, career crisis, mental health struggles, and the imbalance dynamics that

nearly tore them apart. And if you have not listened to that episode, I highly recommend it.

I know I've said that before about other episodes,

but they are just connected in such a fascinating way. You can't help but just be drawn into their

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