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The Effectiveness Of Double-Masking, Mars Landing Preview. Feb 12, 2021, Part 1

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🗓️ 12 February 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Two Masks Are Better Than One Masks have been a big issue throughout the pandemic, from supply shortages to debates about when they should be required to be used. This week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention put out research and guidance on the effectiveness of double masking—wearing one mask over another. Engineer and aerosol scientist Linsey Marr talks about how a face mask traps a virus, the effectiveness of double masking, and other other questions about face masks.   Next Week, A Return To Martian Soil It’s a busy time on Mars. This week, spacecraft from both China and the United Arab Emirates successfully maneuvered into position in Martian orbit. And next week, if all goes according to plan, the Mars 2020 mission will deliver the Perseverance rover to its new home in Jezero Crater on the planet’s surface. Scientists hope to use it there for at least two Mars years, exploring the geology and chemistry of what once was a catch-basin for a river delta on the Red Planet. Lori Glaze, head of the Planetary Science Division of NASA’s Science Mission Directorate, joins Ira to give a preview of the landing process, and an overview of some of the experiments on board Perseverance—from a ground-penetrating radar system to an experimental helicopter that may make the first controlled, powered flight on another planet.   Some People Had COVID-19 For So Long That It Mutated Inside Them COVID-19 variants have been front and center in the news over the past few months. Mutations are a natural part of the course of life for viruses. But to us humans, they’re adding more unknowns to an already stressful time. Groups of researchers around the world have found something interesting in a select few COVID-19 patients: individuals who seem to be reservoirs for coronavirus mutations. Essentially, these patients were infected with COVID-19 for so long that the virus was able to mutate inside them. Experts are scratching their heads at these strange cases, and now are looking into what this means for our efforts to fight the virus. Meanwhile, South Africa has suspended the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine because it doesn’t clearly stop the coronavirus variant that originated in the country. This is a problem for AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford, which planned on deploying this vaccine en masse in developing countries. Joining Ira to break down these stories and other science news of the week is Maggie Koerth, senior science reporter for FiveThirtyEight.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Iroflato. Later in the hour, we're going to talk about the CDC's new

0:05.9

guidance on double masking. But first, we've been hearing a lot about COVID-19 variants.

0:12.6

For viruses, mutations are a natural course of life, but for people, mutations are unsettling

0:19.2

unknowns to an already stressful situation. And now comes another wrinkle.

0:25.6

Researchers have found something really intriguing in a few specific COVID-19 patients,

0:32.0

people who seem to be reservoirs for coronavirus mutations. Here with me to break down this fascinating news is Maggie Kerth,

0:40.4

senior science reporter for 538, based in Minneapolis. Welcome back, Maggie. Hi, thanks for having me.

0:47.7

So what do we know about these people who seem to be reservoirs for mutations? Well, so what we're

0:53.1

finding is that these are usually chronic patients.

0:56.6

So they're not people who are, you know, those COVID long haulers who have symptoms persisting

1:01.5

after an infection passed. These are people whose infections never went away. So one of these patients

1:09.0

is a man in the United States who had had an active COVID

1:12.6

infection for 154 days before he finally died from it. He was infectious that entire five months or so,

1:19.7

and the doctors could watch the virus evolve resistance to various treatments over time

1:25.1

that he was getting. So it was mutating faster than they had seen SARS-CoV-2

1:30.4

do anywhere else. And by the time he died, it was starting to fight off even things like

1:36.1

monoclonal antibody medications. Wow. I'm hoping this is a really uncommon situation.

1:43.3

I mean, it is both uncommon and not unique, right?

1:49.2

Like, this is not something that happens everywhere, but it is something that they have

1:52.5

identified in multiple places. You know, around the same time, there was another person in the

1:58.0

UK, a man whose illness lasted about 102 days before he also died.

2:03.3

And doctors found the same sort of hyper-fast mutation happening in COVID in his body.

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