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This week it's Easter. But what will happen to Christianity

in a time when you can't go to church? I talk to Luke Coppin and Tom Holland. I also hear

from the front line in New York, one of the new epicenters of the coronavirus, about what it's

like in hospitals there. And at the very end, I find out about the importance of humour in dark times.

First, the former editor of the Catholic Herald Luke Coppin writes our cover piece this week,

asking whether or not coronavirus is an opportunity for resurgence for Christianity in Britain, or is ruination.

He joins me now, together with author and historian Tom Holland,

whose latest book, Dominion, takes a look at the lasting impact of Christianity. So Luke,

why do you think this is such a pivotal moment? This is a completely unique Easter for Christians

around the world in that churches everywhere are closed.

So Christians are going to be having to follow the Holy Week liturgies from their home via live streams on the Internet.

And in this unique situation, there's a big debate going on among Christian thinkers about what's going to happen

next. Is this going to really damage an already vulnerable Western Christianity still further?

Or will it, on the contrary, lead to a kind of resurgence in church going once people are allowed

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