The Edition: inside the SNP’s secret state
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🗓️ 25 January 2024
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
The Covid Inquiry has moved to Scotland and, in his cover story for the magazine, our editor Fraser Nelson looks at the many revelations uncovered by Jamie Dawson KC. Fraser describes how civil servants were enlisted into what he calls an ‘SNP secret state’ and how SNP corruption is threatening devolution. Joining us to discuss is the Coffee House Scots team: Times columnist Iain Macwhirter, The Spectator’s data editor Michael Simmons and The Spectator’s social media editor Lucy Dunn who coordinates our Scotland coverage. (01:26)
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| 0:00.0 | The Spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of unrivaled authority. |
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| 0:30.1 | Hello and welcome to the edition podcast from The Spectator. |
| 0:33.5 | Each week we look at three pieces from the magazine with the writers behind them. |
| 0:37.6 | I'm William Moore, the Spectator's Features Editor. |
| 0:40.1 | And I'm Laura Prendergast, the Spectator's Executive Editor. |
| 0:43.0 | On this week's episode, we'll be discussing how the S&P's secret state is threatening devolution, |
| 0:49.1 | learning about Germany's hollow army, and asking if the customer is in fact always wrong. First up, the COVID inquiry |
| 0:57.5 | has now moved to Scotland and in his cover story for the magazine, our editor Fraser Nelson |
| 1:02.3 | looks at some of the many revelations uncovered by Jamie Dawson, Casey. Fraser describes how |
| 1:08.6 | civil servants were enlisted in an SMP secret state, as he puts it. |
| 1:13.6 | Joining us now is the Spectator's Coffee House Scott's team, Times columnist Ian McWurter, |
| 1:19.1 | the Spectator's data editor Michael Simmons and the Spectator's social media editor, Lucy Dunn, |
| 1:24.2 | who coordinates our Scotland coverage. |
| 1:26.8 | So in Fraser's piece, looks at the inquiry, |
| 1:29.7 | which has now moved up to Edinburgh, and one of the big revelations has been the deletion of |
| 1:34.2 | WhatsApp messages, can you talk a little bit about that and how important story it has been? |
| 1:40.6 | Well, it was really established even before these hearings began, that there had been a policy of mass deletion by the Scottish government. |
| 1:51.1 | Jamie Dawson accused Casey from the Baroness Hallett's UK COVID inquiry had already made clear that they had not got messages, WhatsApp messages, |
| 2:03.3 | or other informal messages, electronic messages from the First Minister. |
| 2:09.3 | And it was, Nicholas Sturgeon had equivocated about that when she was questioned about it |
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