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Hello and welcome to the edition.

Each week we talk about some of the most important and intriguing issues from the magazine

with the writers behind them. I'm Nara Prendergast.

This week, how can the West fight back against

China's economic bullying? And are Mormons misunderstood? Finally, what's wrong with being

spiritual but not religious? First up, nine Brits have now been sanctioned by China for

spreading what they call lies and

disinformation about human rights abuses against Uyghur Muslims. In this week's magazine, our political

editor James Versaith says the West needs to unite against China. To explain, he joins me now

alongside Ian Duncan Smith, the Tory MP and former party leader who was targeted by the sanctions.

James, in your piece in this week's magazine, you say that the West now needs a collective

response to China's economic bullying. What exactly would you like to see happen?

So I think what is needed is some kind of thing along the lines of a kind of NATO for trade

to ensure that there is a collective Western response when

China attempts to pick countries off one by one. I think we've seen the way that China turned on

Australia, for example, after Australia called for an independent inquiry into the origins

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