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🗓️ 5 December 2025
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‘Labour is now the party of welfare, not work’ argues Michael Simmons in the Spectator’s cover article this week. The question ‘why should I bother with work?’ is becoming harder to answer, following last week’s Budget which could come to define this Labour government. A smaller and smaller cohort of people are being asked to shoulder the burden – what do our Spectator contributors think of this?
For this week’s Edition, host Lara Prendergast is joined by opinion editor Rupert Hawksley, arts editor Igor Toronyi-Lalic and columnist Matthew Parris. Rupert points out the perceived lack of fairness across the Budget, Matthew thinks we shouldn’t be surprised that a Labour government delivered a Labour Budget and Igor makes the case that artists thrive as a consequence of an inefficient state.
As well as the cover, they discuss: the compassionate balance needed on mental health; how society seems to be approaching a ‘climbdown’ over climate change; the best party tricks they’ve seen; and finally, their reflections on Tom Stoppard, following his death at the weekend.
Plus: what is the greatest artwork of the 21st century so far – and how should we define it? The columnists discuss our various submissions from Christian Marclay’s The Clock, television show Succession, album Original Pirate Material by The Streets – and even the Just Stop Oil movement.
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| 0:33.1 | Spectator's executive editor and the latest issue of the magazine has just gone off stone. The headline is |
| 0:39.6 | Slob Story and in it Michael Simmons, our economics editor, looks at how Labour became the party of welfare. |
| 0:47.0 | To discuss what's in his piece and many of the other pieces in this week's issue, I'm joined by |
| 0:51.6 | our opinion editor, Rupert Hawkesley, our arts editor, |
| 0:55.7 | Eagle Tronnie Lalich, and our columnist, Matthew Parris. |
| 1:04.2 | Rupert, could you start by setting out how this week's cover came about? |
| 1:08.0 | Yeah, of course. So we discussed at a great length and in a lot of detail, |
| 1:12.8 | actually, this cover in Friday's editorial conference. There were other ideas that were mooted, |
| 1:18.7 | specifically whether or not it was the time to do a piece on Reeves's future and whether or not |
| 1:23.4 | she could survive after delivering what was an almost universally hated budget. |
| 1:29.4 | But we came back to welfare as it seems to be the issue that both define the budget, |
| 1:34.5 | and I think we'll likely define this government if they can't get it under control. |
| 1:39.0 | I think what came out in editorial conference was a real feeling of anger, |
| 1:43.9 | and I think that anger is reflected |
| 1:45.5 | across the country that a smaller and smaller cohort of working people are basically being |
| 1:49.9 | asked to pay more and more tax in order to prop up those on welfare as well as pensioners. |
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