Hello and welcome to the political orphanage, a home for Puckie Misfits and Problem Solvers.

I'm your host Andrew Heaton, your designated driver through the smoking landscape of American politics.

Today, I have lured a preeminent scholar onto the show, Professor Steve Horwitz,

to discuss the limits of what the state can do and what markets can do.

Since that division is mostly what we used to argue about before we invented the culture

war.

Now we argue about kneeling at sporting events and pronouns and stuff, but what the hell? You and I are going to track down an economist and dish.

Incidentally, if after today's episode you fall in love with Professor Steve

Warwits, last week he appeared on my other program alienating the

audience to talk about the 1993 cult sci-fi classic demolition man so if that

interests you check out alienating the audience after we wrap up this show. You can also play them

both simultaneously if you're particularly gifted at multitasking. I defer to you.

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