What's interesting to me is when you were just talking about social media? What's the game on social media?

Right. I think there's something that I think competition is good, but I wonder if even in competition we don't develop some unhealthy cradings.

I've been all over the world and I can tell you that once you hit a certain point in money, I haven't seen that much of a correlation between happiness and money.

Humans are amazing in our ability to explore.

All these things happen that will allow you to navigate that decision and turn it into the right way.

That's it. I mean that's what we talk about all the time.

I know that when you do this type of research type book, I mean there's opinion books and then there's a book like this where I love and you're a guy that's known for digging.

Well, how did it change?

Journalist, professor of psychiatry, and multi-best-selling author, Michael Easter is my guest.

He was saving us from the comfort crisis in his last book and now he takes on our scarcity brain

This will guarantee that you grow if you listen and do what he tells you to do. Let's go. All right Michael, let's get right to it. So you dug into the science, that's what you're known for. Where does scarcity come from? This goes way back, you say.

Oh, this goes way back. I mean, we, so in the book I asked the bigger question, which is, you know, everyone knows everything's

fine in moderation.

Well, why can't we moderate?

Right.

And it often goes back to how humans lived for all of time, which was in environments where everything you needed to survive and thrive was scarce.

Everything from food to stuff to information to even the number of people that you

could influence all scarce all hard to find and so if you were the type of person who

tried to over acquire all of those when you have the opportunity that would give you survival advantage

and we still have that sort of old DNA in a time where we are surrounded in an

abundance of all these things were sort of built to crave and it often leads us into trouble.

Okay so here's what I ask you is it as simple as the the science of there's so much

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