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Entrepreneurs on Fire

The Dynamic Duo: JLD and Guy Kawasaki: An EOFire Classic from 2022

Entrepreneurs on Fire

John Lee Dumas

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4.84.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

From the archive: This episode was originally recorded and published in 2022. Our interviews on Entrepreneurs On Fire are meant to be evergreen, and we do our best to confirm that all offers and URL's in these archive episodes are still relevant.

Guy Kawasaki is the chief evangelist of Canva and the host of the Remarkable People podcast. He was the chief evangelist of Apple. He is the author of fifteen books.

Top 3 Value Bombs

1. To win, you have to be the number 1 solution to a real problem in this world.

2. Find somebody currently where you want to be in about a year from now.

3. Being good is not enough, be remarkable.

Check out Guy's website - Guy Kawasaki Website

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0:00.0

Boom. Shake the room, Fire Nation. JLD here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire, brought to you by

0:08.3

High Level, the all-on-one sales and marketing platform on today's classic episode. We'll be breaking

0:14.2

down the dynamic duo JLD and Guy Kawasaki. And Guy Kawasaki is the chief evangelist of Canva and the host of The Remarkable People podcast. He was the chief evangelist of Apple and is the author of 15 books. And today we talk about how to win. You have to be the number one solution to a real problem in this world. Also that you have to find somebody currently where you want to be in about a year from now. And that being good is not enough. Be remarkable and owe so much more. And a big thing of a sponsor to today's

0:41.0

episode goes to Guy and our sponsors. Fire Nation, success isn't a solo journey. It's about

0:48.0

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0:53.4

of entrepreneurs ready to support, inspire,

0:56.1

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1:03.6

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1:08.6

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high level fire.com to start your free trial today.

1:26.1

So I go to Stanford. I graduate. I get into law school, I go to law school, I quit after

1:31.7

two weeks and I thought, holy shit, this is, this is archa-key time, Sepuco time, you know?

1:38.0

So like, you know, 2,000 years of my, my ancestors have worked in sugarcane et cetera, sort of to get me to law school.

1:45.9

And you little shit, you quit after two weeks.

1:50.1

And so it was a big deal for me to quit.

1:52.8

And it sounds like it was a big deal for you.

1:54.5

Yeah, I'll tell you my story real quick is that I quit.

1:58.3

And then I just said, you know, I know that my dad, who's a lawyer, is going to be so devastated that I need to tell him in person because I wanted to be a man about it. But then I had to leave. I had to just get it out. So I had a four-month trip to India booked the day after I told him. So the morning, the morning came for me to tell

2:21.5

my father, who you know is a lawyer and he was telling all his law buddies forever. My son's in law

2:26.2

school. He'll join my practice. And I didn't chicken out 100%, but I knew that if I started telling

2:32.6

him that I was dropping out of law school,

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