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Okay Becca, when we're driving somewhere, which one of us typically is driving?

I'd say you most of the time. Yeah. Is that because I'm a better driver than you?

Thanks for that.

No, you're a good driver. You are. Sometimes you drive pretty slow. I'd say that something

that people that know you well would give you a hard time about. You did swipe the door of my

old car on a telephone pole in a parking lot once and you kind of space out. You'll leave

the windshield wipers on after it stopped raining. Sometimes I wait to see how long it takes you

to notice if you notice. Wow, this line of questioning is totally not working out for me right now.

Okay, but this is kind of intriguing. Why do you drive all the time? Right? So I was thinking about it

and at first I was like, I have no idea. But when I thought harder about it, I remembered.

We had our old truck crash, right? Yeah, rest in peace crash. Yeah, I still get a little sad too.

But anyway, it had a bent seat, right? If you move the seat closer to the steering wheel,

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