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Hello and welcome to the Dread Pirate Trump edition of Slate Money, your guide to the Business and Finance News of the Week.

I'm Felix Salmon. I'm joined by Anna Shaman and Jordan Weissman, and this is going to be the second week of vaguely tariff-related talks.

Mostly the defenestrations

associated there with, or the auto

defenestrations associated there with.

It's like sort of like an auto defenestration,

sort of like a defenestration.

Anyway, sorry.

We are going to talk about South Africa again, but this time we're going to talk about

whether and how they are going to start seizing various bits of land from white people.

We're going to talk about Dodd-Frank.

Do you remember Dodd-Frank?

That was a thing in 2009 or thereabouts when we decided to reform the banking sector.

Apparently now we're having second thoughts about that.

So we're going to talk about that with Jordan Weissman, who's been caring about such things.

But first, it's unlike us, I will admit, to basically do the same thing twice in a row.

Last week, we were talking all about steel terrorists.

So this week we're going to try not to talk about steel terrorists,

but we do need to talk about the fact that the most financially literate person in the Trump administration has now resigned.

You don't think Stephen Nushin is like as financially illiterate as Gary Cohn?

I'm quite sure that he's not.

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