Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - The Domestic Terror Arm of MAGA
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🗓️ 16 January 2021
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Juliette Kayyem, former assistant secretary at the Department of Homeland Security under President Barack Obama, currently serving as the faculty chair of the homeland security program at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, to look at the violent extremist elements of the MAGA movement and how counterterrorism tools can inform the response to the attack on the Capitol and President Trump’s “stochastic terrorism.”
In our Slate Plus segment, Mark Joseph Stern joins Dahlia to discuss developments in the judiciary in North Carolina and Pennsylvania, the high court’s decision to greenlight more federal executions in the last days of the Trump administration, and the first abortion case of the Amy Coney Barrett era.
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| 0:00.0 | We think, oh, if we just lower the temperature, let him move on, go to Marlago. |
| 0:09.0 | No, because he's now launched something that is very, very dangerous. |
| 0:14.0 | And we have to view it as an organized element that is feeding off the big lie. |
| 0:27.5 | Hi and welcome back to amicus. |
| 0:32.8 | This is Slate's podcast about the law and the courts, the Supreme Court, and the rule of law. |
| 0:42.8 | It's been just over a week since the attempted insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, the first such event since the War of 1812. |
| 0:52.2 | And now we're preparing, at least talking about preparing for the possibility of yet more violence this weekend, next week around the inauguration. |
| 0:56.2 | As we sat through the second impeachment of President Donald Trump in the House of Representatives this week and started to hear about the |
| 1:02.2 | arrests and the first court appearances of some of the rioters, we also started to learn |
| 1:07.9 | pretty granular details that suggested there was a lot more violence, |
| 1:11.7 | a lot more planning, significant financial backing, that some of these looters were on the no-fly |
| 1:18.2 | list and really intimations, only intimations now, that some members of Congress might have |
| 1:25.7 | in some way or other aided this insurrection. |
| 1:29.0 | It's really a lot to process and in some ways a different story even than we were telling a week ago. |
| 1:35.5 | So if our show last week with Josh Gelzer tried to probe what it is that it happened and what to call it, |
| 1:42.6 | we wanted this week to attempt to at least understand |
| 1:45.4 | what can be done now going forward. Later on in the show, we are going to check in with Slate's |
| 1:51.1 | very own Mark Joseph Stern about developments in the judiciary in North Carolina and Pennsylvania |
| 1:56.7 | that do not bode well for democracy generally and voting rights going forward. |
| 2:03.0 | We're also going to talk about the High Court's decision to Greenlight, yet more federal executions this week, and the first chilling abortion case of the Amy Coney-Barritt era. |
| 2:14.7 | That segment is available to our Slate Plus members. |
| 2:18.9 | And as always, we thank you for your support. And if you're not a member, you might want to know that Slate Plus |
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