Welcome to part two of our conversation with Donald Muldan about being a ghost doctor.

Let me ask, I mean, because obviously, you know, you as you would say, you know, a man of science.

You know, you are someone who, you know, studies things, you know, beyond just, you know,

hocus, pocus type things that one would associate with ghosts and paranormal.

How has it been for you, you know, squaring up these two?

Because the two worlds sometimes clash, others would argue and say that, no, they can

collide quite well and actually, you know, somewhat work together.

How has that, that worked for you kind of combining those two things?

You know, I think it's been a it's it's been it has been it has not been that difficult um i think i'm pretty open to it but i'm

also i'm also have a fair amount of skepticism too that i really got to convince myself

um because i think it's easy to let ourselves believe that something's paranormal

because you get so excited about it that you really got to make sure you're always pulling

back a little bit and say wait a minute now let me shake my head off and let me look at this

more objectively so I think being a doctor and doing the and doing the the paranormal stuff

I kind of have that I think I'm a little better at maybe sometimes, or a little more likely, that's much better. I'm a little more likely to make sure I kind of pull back and kind of put it in check and kind of see. So I think, you know, the science part of me is always looking for the natural explanation. And then once I can kind of eliminate everything that I can think of, then, you know, the science part of me is always looking for the natural explanation.

And then once I can kind of eliminate everything that I can think of, then, you know, then I'm left with stuff that's, you just can't explain. Yeah. And that's not natural, you know, like one of the things for me that I always tell people that's pretty convincing, some of these EVPs we catch, you know, you catch these voices that are, that shouldn't be there for any reason and they're there and they're

answering your questions.

For me, I'm like voices that are, they shouldn't be there for any reason,

and they're there, and they're answering your questions. For me, I'm like, that's pretty compelling, because scientifically I feel that's something I could take to my colleagues or take to anybody and say, hey, listen to this and tell me what you think about this, because every now and then you cross past the people, and they're like, well, how do you believe in that? And that's crazy.

I'm like, well, why don't you listen to ZVPs and tell me what you think?

And you're like, well, how do you believe in that? And that's crazy. I'm like, well, why don't you listen to these EVPs and tell me what you think?

And you're like, well, there's, there's something definitely there.

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