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🗓️ 30 November 2023
⏱️ 111 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Docket, presented by Defense Diaries, I'm your host Bob Mata, and this |
0:28.5 | is our continuing coverage of Stephen Avery, guilty or innocent, a full-case analysis. Alternate title? Did he do it? Yo, what's up, girl? Hey, babe. Hey, all right, so we're back at it. After that long break, we're going to start pounding these things out, and Allison, I have to tell you all, is really, really trying to sway me off going through all these police reports, and I keep fighting her off, |
0:58.5 | I feel like it's important. I think especially early in the investigation, I think that it's important that we go through all of them. I don't have it open right now, what is it? 1100 pages? 1100 and some change. It's a lot, but we're not in a position right now to be able to say, we don't think that that matters, because we're for all intents and purposes investigating the case, and we're too early in it to make decisions as |
1:28.5 | what we think could be relevant or irrelevant, I think. Correct, and this is what we would obviously be doing, if we were defending this case, we would go through every single police report, and we would analyze them and review them. So I see where Bob's coming. I'm just like, yo, you know, there's a lot. And I see where you're coming from, too. I mean, look, we warned you at the front end when we decided to pivot and make this thing a full, |
1:58.5 | like full case analysis and that that meant we were going through everything, you know, we're going to warn you again. This is going to be a long ass series. This isn't going to be 10, 12, 14 episodes. You know, I know there's creators out there that think that that's a long series, that that's nothing. If you follow either Gacy and or Garcia, you know, I am not afraid of the 30s, the 40s and the 50s for a series. So, you know, and if you're into deep dives, I'm hoping it's your |
2:28.3 | thing. And if you're not, I'm still hoping it's your thing. So, all right, enough of that. Let's dig in. The one thing that we can't do is have me wasting a bunch of time on the front end, yapping, like we get to get right into it. |
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3:18.7 | Absolutely. |
3:19.7 | All right. Cool. So let's dive in. We are picking up at the end of 1106-05. And we left off with y'all talking about the search of the various sheds on the property. So there were the multiple sheds where they went and they collected some evidence. |
3:37.7 | And they found the random clothes that up at Maribel Cave's Park, which they also were kind of looking into, which are interesting when I did the Google search. |
3:49.2 | It's not that far from the area. It's like nine, 10 miles. So I mean, that's in play as well. So that'll bring us current. So now we're going to talk about deputy Joseph tenor. |
4:00.7 | And he's with Kelly my county. He's assisting a group of five search and rescue and cadaver dogs in the quarry immediately to the east of baby road. Now the quarry belongs to Michael's materials. |
4:13.7 | And during the search one of the dogs hit on a pile of dirt and sand north of a quarry scale. Now where the dogs alerted. |
4:24.7 | And I'm going to read this verbatim because it reads very, very strangely else and I are both kind of looking at it like what does this mean, but I want to read it to you. It says, we're the dog alerted to I located an item in the pile of dirt. |
4:37.7 | The item was red in color surrounded by pink material. The area was marked with fluorescent pink ribbon and a washer. Now I have no idea what that means. |
4:49.7 | I don't know what the item is. It's the most bizarre description of anything. I think what maybe they're saying when they're saying like the area was marked that where the dog hit they used a washer and pink ribbon, but I'm not sure. |
5:03.7 | I don't know. I don't know if they're talking about it. It was pre marked. They don't talk about what the item is. The item is red in color and surrounded by pink material. What? |
5:13.7 | And it just so happens that you're using for us and it's weird. So a total of three out of the five dogs alerted to that area. So it seems like there's something going on there. |
5:24.7 | So tenor remains in the area. And that area is monitored where the dogs alerted until deputy deputy Nicholas sabbletch of the Kelly McConey Sheriff's Department relieves him. |
5:36.7 | And then tenor leads three employees of the Wisconsin State Crime Lab to the location and report. So that's all we get from that. |
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