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Welcome to the Docket presented by Defense Diaries. This is episode four of Strings Attached,

the People vs. Laurie Valodebel. What's up, Elle? Hey, babe. We're back again. Sorry.

Episode four, we're pounding through these things, yeah? Sure. So I think we're getting more

comfortable podcasting together. It's been interesting at first because we do tend to talk over

each other a little bit, but I think I think we're mastering it at this point.

Mastering? Exactly. All right, so what we've gone through in the first three episodes,

I'm not going to go through one and two. One was the openings, two was Kay and Brandon,

three. It was Detective Hermesio, and now we're getting into some good stuff. Today, the state will

end up calling Melanie Gibb. Who's Melanie Gibb, Elle? Melanie Gibb was a close friend of Laurie's,

but a new friend. They became friends in about October of 2018, but from the jump, they were thick as

thieves. But I'm thinking before we get into trial testimony, and I know you haven't heard this

yet, but I've got a clip that I'd like you to play for your listeners. So this is... I think there are

listeners. Okay, for now, I guess. My partner, girl. It's always ours. So anyway, my husband got

me off, flustered over here. There's a podcast. It's Melanie Gibb, Jason Mao, and they're bringing,

they're introducing Laurie. And Jason was also, he was a religious teacher to youths. He

traveled to countries, speaking to youths, and was also an author. He was a former police officer,

and a fellow gatherer. So... Weirdo! Such a weirdo. All right, well, consider my interest peaked,

so how much are we going to listen to a lot of it? How long is it? No, it's... I think we only need

to listen to them introduce each other, not like the actual podcast. Oh, okay, why does it get weird?

No, I mean, it's just not all that. All right, well, let's quit guessing and let's start listening.

All right, it is November 26, 2018. We are our very first podcast. My name is Jason Mao,

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