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I am so excited to finally share with you the talk I had just a few days ago

with Bob Mata of the podcast Defense Diaries.

Bob is a defense attorney by trade and has been converted into a true crime

podcaster.

His show is excellent and we'll tell you a little bit about it in a second.

But in this episode we get into his opinion about the effectiveness

of the prosecution in the Daniel Shaver case with the second-degree murder trial

of Mitch Brailsford.

We also dive into some of the later stuff in that season,

including a little bit about Richard Elegitz and his lawyer.

And finally, we go off the rails and talk about aliens, future tech,

chat GPT and our personal paranormal experiences.

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