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You're listening to the History Extra podcast brought to you by the team behind BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Matt Elton. Today's podcast guest is the historian Claudio Sont, Professor of History at the University of Georgia.

Claudio is the author of Unworthy Republic, The Dispossession of Native Americans and the Road to Indian Territory,

one of the books shortlisted for this year's kundle prize, of which History Extra is a media partner. I caught up with Claudio to find out more.

Your book covers a story about the expulsion of Native American people, which is a story I think I

knew the very broad outlines of, but not the specifics

and not the human stories. First of all, would you mind just very briefly and broadly

setting out the period your book covers and also the kind of scale involved? Yeah, so the book

Unworthy Republic treats what we call Indian removal, this period in the 1830s, when the federal government

had an official policy to move every single indigenous person living within the United States

west of the Mississippi River. And it's important to recall that in the 1830s, the states

were limited to the area east of the Mississippi. So the area west was largely owned by Mexico.

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