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excludes plug-in hybrids, Delantis Financial Services. You're listening to the History Extra podcast brought to you by the team behind BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Matt Elton. Today's podcast guest is the historian Kerry Greenidge, author of Black Radical,

The Life and Times of William Munro Trotter, one of the books shortlisted for this year's

Kundle Prize, of which History Extra is a media partner. I caught up with Kerry to find out more about her biography

of the pioneering black newspaperman.

I have to confess that I hadn't heard

of the subject of your new book

before I started reading it.

Is that a common thing?

Is he well known in America but not over here?

That's actually an excellent question.

I found that he's not very well known,

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