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Welcome to Raising Good Humans.

I'm Dr. Lisa Pressman, and today we're talking about the disengaged teen,

helping kids learn better, feel better, and live better.

I'm actually interviewing Jenny Anderson, who wrote this book with Rebecca Winthrop.

Jenny Anderson is an award-winning journalist, author, and speaker with more than 25 years of experience,

and her work has appeared in some of the world's leading publications,

including The New York Times,

where she was on staff for a decade, Time, The Atlantic, and Courts.

And Rebecca Winthrop, her co-author, is a leading global authority on education.

She's the director of the Center for Universal Education at Brookings and is an adjunct professor

at Georgetown University.

It's such an important conversation about how to raise good learners, which is really at risk these

days. The majority of kids are disengaged from school. They're bored. They're overwhelmed.

There's a toxic combination that is boredom

and overwhelm, high achievement pressure, and giving up. And so many things are easy to solve

just by shifting a little bit of our attitude and language that we use in the household. So I want to tell you

about this research and give you concrete strategies to solve for the different kind of learners

that we're growing. And this isn't just about academics. It's really about raising curious

kids who can thrive in a world in whatever way is best for them and in whatever uncertain world we're

going to have because the goal is confusing since the goalpost changes all the time and

technology changes all the time and what skills we need change all the time. But being a

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