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The Fall Line: True Crime

The Disappearance of Leona Kinsey: Carolyn DeFord, Part 2

The Fall Line: True Crime

The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

True Crime, Society & Culture

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Leona Kinsey disappeared on October 25, 1999; her daughter Carolyn has both searched for answers in her mother’s cold case—and has pondered what she’ll do if she finds what she seeks. Now an adult and an activist for MMIGW, and all missing and murdered Indigenous people through her Facebook group Missing and Murdered Native Americans, Carolyn continues the story of her young adulthood, and recounts the experience of hearing of her mother’s disappearance from a state away. To get 15% off your next gift, go to UncommonGoods.com/Fall! Go to Masterclass.com/fall for 15% off your annual membership! Start your 100-day free trial with Away at AwayTravel.com/FALL Listen to the CBC’s Telling our Twisted Histories: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/906-telling-our-twisted-histories Listen To The Vanished’s coverage of Leona’s Case: https://art19.com/shows/the-vanished-podcast-wondery/episodes/76152ac4-587f-488f-b852-7f33e71cdab3 Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Audrey Faulkner, and Kim Fritz/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2021 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email [email protected] or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:42.9

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0:44.9

This week, we continue the story of Leona LeClair-Kenzie in Carolyn de Ford, a missing mother

1:00.9

and a daughter who was grown up to become an advocate for the missing and murdered. Both

1:05.5

online, through her Facebook group and through her legislative work for missing and murdered

1:10.9

indigenous women and girls. When we left off last time, Carolyn's story had carried us through

1:16.8

her childhood and into the complex relationship she and Leona had in her adolescence. They were

1:22.9

incredibly close and there was so much she admired about her mother, her talent, her

1:28.2

independence, her strength, her eye for artistic design and her humor. But her mother struggles

1:34.4

with addiction had been a strain too and Carolyn sometimes swindered for herself when Leona

1:39.3

was in jail. She blamed her mother for the breakup of Leona's marriage to the stepfather

1:44.8

that Carolyn had adored. By Carolyn's late teenage years, Leona was out of jail and back

1:51.0

living in the little trailer park they'd been in for most of their life, surrounded by

1:55.1

friends and family that Carolyn had grown up with. But Carolyn had begun to strike out on

2:00.4

her own, first living with roommates, then back with her mother, then back with friends.

2:05.7

She was in the process of figuring things out. In six years, her mother would vanish and

2:12.1

Carolyn herself would be a mother. But in the early 1990s, she felt adrift.

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