Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, conversations on faith and culture.

I'm your host Sean McDowell, Professor of Apologetics at Tabith School of Theology,

Biola University.

And I'm your co-host Scott Ray, Dean of the Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics,

also here at Tabith School of Theology at viola University.

Today we're here with Daniel Darling, the author of a very timely book called The Dignity Revolution.

He is the Vice President for Communications for the Ethics and

Religious Liberty Commission. He writes regularly for publications such as the Washington Post and

the Huffington Post and hosts the Way Home Podcast.

Dan, thanks for joining us.

Hey, it's great to be with you guys.

I love how you begin your book,

because you start with a story about the children's book, Horton hears a who,

which is a book we've all heard, we've all talked about,

but you tell the background story of this book

that I had never heard before, so do you mind share with us that background story and how it lays just kind of the heart or the basis for your book the dignity revolution

Yeah, so this story really fascinated me.

During World War II, there was a cartoonist named Theodore Giesl, who used his talents to advocate for the Allied cause.

He was a supporter of Franklin Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, and the fight against the fascist in Germany, Italy and Japan.

And, you know, his cartoons were in newspapers across the country but he actually went beyond patriotism

and he would depict Japanese people as less than human in fact if you Google some of the images they're

pretty racist they and this was at a time when Japanese Americans as you know

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