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Hello and welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Patrick. I'm

Bill of Ben. We're joined today. I'm very excited to talk to Jordan, and that's the author of the new book,

Push, Unlock the Science of Fitness, Motivation to Embrace Health and Longevity.

How are you doing, Jordan? Should we call you Dr. Jordan, MD? How should we refer to you? Jordan is fine. Nice to see you guys. Thanks so much. It's great to meet you. Thank you so much for being here. A little bit of bio for you. And then I'm going to ask you to kind of fill in the gaps a little bit so folks know a little bit more about your background and how you got to writing this specific book. Your sports medicine physician at Hospital for Special Surgery in New York City,

creator of the Iron Strength Workout, a free functional fitness program

that boasts a community of more than 50,000 members,

bestselling author of a couple books, Running Strong, The Exercise Cure,

and the book we're going to talk to you about today.

Like I said, it's called The Push.

You're also somehow managed to find time to run more than 30 marathons and, what is it, 12 Iron Man's? Iron Men? What is the plural of Iron Men? It can be Iron Man Triathlons, 15, but who's counting? You are, which you should be after one. Ben, you did what, one, two Iron Man back in the day? I've done two. Good for you. Okay. So you guys can connect over that. I would love to, Jordan, just enter into this conversation about the science of fitness motivation, talking about two things. One, how you got to this particular book at this particular time. You've got a lot of things going on. So I'm curious about your background a little bit. And then I would love to maybe move into talking about something that you mentioned in the book, which is just this motivational spectrum where a lot of us live in various times of our lives in different places on that motivational spectrum. So let's let's start there. Why did you write the book? How did you get to it? And then let's move into this idea of motivation. You got it. Thanks so much for having me,

guys. And if I talk too much, just say like, dude, shut up. That's fine. I got no problem at all.

Ben is always telling me to shut up. So perfect. All right. So to begin with, I'm a sports

medicine doctor here at hospital for special surgery in New York.

I've been here 25 years. And I'm going to back up a little bit to kind of tell you how I ended up sitting here.

So I come from a family of doctors. My dad was a pediatrician. My mom, a psychologist. I have three brothers. Everybody's a doctor, Metzl, including dad, who was the OG Dr. Metzl. I ended up,

eventually ending up, played soccer in college, started doing triathlons and running marathons

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