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Hey, Sana here. This episode is one of our favorite from 2023. We are replaying it as part of our summer series.

Tell me what you see

Okay, so you're pretty used to talking about your music in interviews, but I think this is the first time you're going to be talking about your mental health, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

Tell me what you see.

And so, like, I'm not nervous, but it just does feel a little bit different.

And that's why I was joking to Beth that I have a box of tissues ready

because I'm just like a little bit emotional about it.

But it's good. It's a good thing.

No, fair enough.

I mean, I was going to ask whether it feels nerve-wracking or freeing.

It's nerve-racking. It's both.

Hey, this is all in the mind. I'm Sana Khadar, and who you're hearing is Pavin Korsing.

She's an aria-nominated musician, formerly of the cult Melbourne's psychedelic band,

the Bombay Royale, and now a solo artist.

And people process their experiences in different ways, right?

We've had plenty of academics and researchers on the show who've made their lived experience the subject of their work.

So today we hear from an artist, Paven, who's processing her mental health through

her music. That's part of why I do music because I want to engage with people and share my

experiences authentically so that other people can relate to know that they're not alone.

And what she wants to share and destigmatize is her diagnosis of bipolar effective disorder,

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