The DHS shakeups in Minnesota.
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Isaac Saul
4.7 • 816 Ratings
🗓️ 29 January 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
On Monday, President Donald Trump announced that border czar Tom Homan would go to Minnesota to oversee immigration enforcement efforts. Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino, who had previously spearheaded the operations, reportedly left Minnesota on Tuesday along with an unspecified number of Department of Homeland Security (DHS) agents; Bovino returned to his previous post in California. Separately, two Customs and Border Patrol agents who fired guns in the Saturday shooting death of 37-year-old U.S. citizen Alex Pretti were placed on leave; Bovino had previously shared that the agents had been reassigned to another state but were still working. The moves follow widespread, bipartisan scrutiny of DHS over Pretti’s death and the earlier shooting death of 37-year-old U.S. citizen Renee Good by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer.
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| 0:00.0 | From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. |
| 0:12.5 | Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get |
| 0:23.4 | views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. |
| 0:28.3 | I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and it is Thursday, January 29th. Today we are talking about the |
| 0:34.3 | de-escalation in Minnesota, the shake-up of the immigration enforcement. |
| 0:39.3 | I'm not exactly sure what to call it, but it's a developing situation and it's real. |
| 0:43.7 | We're going to break down exactly what's going on, share some views from the left and the right, |
| 0:46.9 | and then get into my take. |
| 0:48.8 | Before you get started, a quick heads up that this week, the rapper and cultural icon, |
| 0:53.8 | formerly known as Kanye West, |
| 0:56.2 | now known as Ye, took out a full-page ad in the Wall Street Journal, |
| 1:02.0 | apologizing for his past anti-Semitic remarks and blaming some of his actions on manic bipolar episodes. |
| 1:08.9 | Tomorrow, I'm going to write about that apology. |
| 1:12.2 | I'm going to write about how I view it and what the response to Yey's apology tells us about |
| 1:18.1 | American cultural values. |
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| 1:27.2 | All right, I'm going to send over to John for today's main show, and I'll be back for my take. |
| 1:38.4 | Thanks, Isaac, and welcome, everybody. |
| 1:40.6 | Here are your quick hits for today. |
| 1:42.5 | First up, the Federal Open Market Committee |
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