Suspension of the rules. - Isaac, Ari and Kmele chat about law enforcement encounters, Kanye West and then Isaac interviews Elliot Williams about his new book Five Bullets.
Tangle
Isaac Saul
4.7 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 30 January 2026
⏱️ 93 minutes
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Summary
On todays episode of Suspension of the Rules, Isaac, Ari and Kmele talk about how you should actually handle interactions about law enforcement, a little bit about Kanye West and then a heated grievance section about 5k worth of podcasting gear being stolen from Isaac's office. Isaac then wraps up the episode with a great interview with Elliot Williams, about of his new book Five Bullets, the story of Bernie Goetz and the shooting that tore New York City and the country apart.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up, we talk about how you should actually handle interactions with law enforcement, |
| 0:05.9 | some grievances about things being stolen from my office, and a little bit of Kanye West, |
| 0:11.5 | because why not? It evening and good evening. |
| 0:30.2 | And welcome to the suspension of the rules podcast. |
| 0:33.3 | It's suspension of the laws in my office. |
| 0:35.7 | Somebody stole all my shit and I'm pissed about it. |
| 0:38.7 | So that is where my day is right now. |
| 0:41.4 | Hey, well, you're hiding it well. |
| 0:43.2 | Yeah, I'm here in the technical studio and I want the guy who stole $5,000 worth of equipment to know that I'm coming for you and we are going to find you. |
| 0:53.0 | I am going to go to the end of the earth to discover who did this |
| 0:56.2 | just because of the pure inconvenience of what my last two hours have been like. |
| 1:02.0 | There's cameras here. |
| 1:03.3 | We're going to find you. |
| 1:05.6 | If you're listening, I want you to know I am going to find you. |
| 1:10.3 | And I can't wait to update the show about what happened. |
| 1:13.2 | So here I am. |
| 1:14.7 | Backup camera. |
| 1:16.4 | Actually, this is my main microphone. |
| 1:18.2 | So I wish I could say it was my backup. |
| 1:20.8 | Somebody stole a bunch of stuff from my studio. |
| 1:23.3 | They unscrewed the mic from the mic stand and just left the mic stand, like, neatly placed in the corner. |
| 1:31.1 | Which, um, something about that, like, made me extra mad. |
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