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The Devil On Your Chest

Togethermess

Jeff Schroeder and Jordan Lloyd

Relationships, Society & Culture, Kids & Family

4.91.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Jeff and Jordan get real about life in and out of reality TV, dealing with people saying cruel things about you, and the moments that can make—or break—a marriage. Plus, a random deep dive into Charlie Manson and the big question… would Peyton ever join a reality show?


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0:00.0

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2:26.0

Think we freaked it out more than you remember you look I got to get pissed Hey guys episode 225 we are picking back up where we left off last week. We were getting in deep convo, so it was running a little long. And so we're just going to keep rambling. Yeah, enjoy. It's not like you're indifferent to the situation. You're pissed about it. So you're pissed about people looking at you the wrong way or putting their groceries the wrong way or putting salt on something or dress dip and chicken. Because I married it for a day and a half. Don't put salt on it until you taste it. Yeah. I also think that that is good to have boundaries. I have to have boundaries with people. You do. You're a people like to take advantage of me. And in the past, I was younger, I was always I was always like Everybody's so good and I was like floating on a cloud and you used to always be like do you ever Like worry about anything remember when we were getting used to always be like nothing bothers you nothing faces me Or nothing faces you and I just like yeah, like everything's good. And like nothing bothered me. And then I think being, I don't know, maybe living in LA, maybe like seeing what you deal with, like behind the scenes and TV and everything. And you realize people aren't good, and you realize the catty-ness, and then in your life you realize people, the hey, wasn't hey, I care about you It was kind of just like you know a little deep and yeah It's other things and I think about things more used to I was naive and I wish I was that naive person And I wish I think that's what made going on reality television the first time because I'm like these people love me They're for me and then you get off the show and then you realize oh they need ratings They need this and all the stuff that goes behind the scenes Yeah, and I wish I didn't know as much as I know now, you know, and then I know It's a kind of like saying ignorance is bliss. Oh, I wish I wish I wish I were%. Now I wish I were on that right now, I'd rather be called ignorant and have a blissful life.

2:29.6

Yeah.

2:30.4

Right?

2:31.2

You know, and just be like, why don't you care about my needs? Because I don't even know who you are. Right. I let you a couple of my handful of times. I don't care who you are. Right. and opinion about me, I would just wish I was bliss

2:40.9

about the whole situation.

2:41.9

But actually, going on reality television

2:44.6

when I went on Big Brother first time, I'm like,

2:47.8

oh, I'm like a normal person. You know, I was waitress and like, I'm a normal person, like working, like a hard working person. And then you get off of the show and you realize how cruel people are. And the stuff people says, like, you're fat, you're ugly.

3:05.6

How did you get him?

3:06.8

You're dumb.

3:07.6

You're this.

3:08.5

You're that.

3:09.3

People say you mean stuff. He's so mean to come in. And then you, ridiculous. But I always have good people, you know, like you or whatever. And then you're like, well, don't even listen to him, honey. I'm like, You look like this when I got off the show I remember being like wow

3:27.5

People are like who are these people? Like people are really mean. And then thinking like, I'm this normal person, I thought it was normal. And then other people saying like all these cruel things about you who don't even know you. No, I get it. I get it. So I get a weird analogy. I'm gonna throw out there because I was watching this new on peacocks begin to that.

3:49.0

We got done with that series all her fault. And then me and your mom were watching the Charlie Manson. Oh, yeah. There's a new documentary out with Charlie Manson. I actually, I don't know if it's new, but we were watching it. And I'm just, I was fascinated by multiple reasons. You know what I mean? How can you get someone to do these things for you and the reasoning behind us? Because they're broken. But right, they're broken people. But also, I was thinking back to like, when I met my boss, you know, and I wasn't going, you know, Dave Deanie. Dave Deanie, my football career was done and I was in a weird spot, weird relationship, didn't really know where I wanted to go in life. And he transformed my mind in a positive way, like listen to all these positive sale tactics, listen to all these positive things, and he'd pay me half the day to work and half the day to listen to these tapes. And my mind really transformed, and I've told the story a million times, into positive. Like I was positive, and that's right when I got a big brother, and I went on big brother with that positive attitude. Had I gone on a couple of years before, it would have been a totally different Jeff on that show. And to relate it to the Manson murders, you could also do that for bad. You could, if you keep pumping negativity or transforming someone's mind that's broken and never had love before, you could transform their mind into whatever you want. So anyways, the point I'm getting at is like, our minds are malleable. Like they could absorb anything and all this things that we're watching negatively on social media and the news. We're absorbing that, not knowing that it's affecting who we are as a person. You know? So you almost have to shut that social media down or at least don't read the comments. Pull the plug on the news and all the negativity. Again, so much. Would you rather be ignorant or would you rather be blissful?

5:46.6

Right.

5:47.6

It's like if you pull the plug on all that and you don't read the comments and you don't

5:50.6

see what's going on and you don't see what all the fighting's about, you are going to

5:53.6

be considered ignorant to the average person or I wouldn't say the average person whoever's

5:58.3

those 10% are causing all those problems.

6:00.8

Right.

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