We don't really have an agenda. There's no goal of the conversation.

The closest we can come up with is just to have a spontaneous free-flowing talk about anything

you want to talk about. I think obviously you know how everyone thinks of your work now it's becoming more well known and I know you're too modest to acknowledge that but I would say that at least for me the most interesting piece if it would come out is just any wide-ranging free-form

thoughts that you have because of the understanding that you have of your

various theories and your view of the world and maybe even just feel free to talk

about how that has influenced your life your outlook on life how you think the world

ought to be a little bit different or could be better where we're headed just feel

free to go very wide-ranging.

It's really just about whatever we want to talk about.

Yeah, and I think I mentioned to you in a private chat that we had about the fact that we've had two

conversations already some things have changed and

especially the chat gPT.

Yeah.

Yeah, that is interesting.

That is the most on top of everyone's mind thing right now.

That is the biggest thing that's happened

correct. Yeah. Yeah. Should we just dive into that? What's your latest

thinking on AI, AGI chat GPT super intelligence? So two big things to say. One is that fundamentally my view is

unchanged. My view about AI, AGI and so on. But the other thing is I use chat gPT all the time many times a day and it's

incredibly useful and I'm still at the stage even though I've had it since

March I'm still in the stage even though I've had it since March I'm still in the stage when I'm thinking

doing so so is too much trouble oh I could ask Chag TPC you know I'm still in that stage

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