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Better Offline

The Department of Justice V Google Ads: Part 2

Better Offline

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

Technology

4.6688 Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Ed Zitron is once again joined by Jason Kint, CEO of DCN, for the second episode of Better Offline's coverage of the Department of Justice's second antitrust case against Google, one that alleges that "through Serial Acquisitions and Anticompetitive Auction Manipulation, Google Subverted Competition in Internet Advertising Technologies." This is the second episode of our ongoing coverage of the trial, which Jason will be attending in-person in Washington DC. For more information, visit https://usvgoogleads.com/ and follow Jason at https://x.com/jason_kint

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.6

Call Zone Media.

0:09.3

Hello and welcome to Better Offline.

0:11.4

I'm your host, Ed Zittron.

0:33.8

I am joined by Jason Kint, once again, the CEO, DCN, who will be telling us more about the first week of the Department of Justice versus Google Ads.

0:35.3

Jason, thank you so much for joining.

0:37.3

Thanks for having me back, Ed. I'm thrilled to be here.

0:43.9

So what's been happening since we last spoke? How'd the first week go? It's a blur. I mean,

0:49.7

it's an impressive operation. I think we talked about how this district is known as the Rocket Docket, and that's how they got from filing a complaint to actual trial in like a year and a half.

0:54.8

So it has that reputation.

0:56.6

And you kind of, we saw it in action this week.

0:59.4

I mean, every day we started at 9 a.m. sharp like clockwork until 6 p.m.

1:03.8

with, you know, three or four senior executives testifying every day.

1:08.0

And who's testified so far?

1:10.7

Three or four ex-Google employees we've heard from. We've had

1:14.9

CEOs of all the major ad tech companies, Andrew Casale from Index Exchange, CEO of Magnite,

1:23.8

and Rubicon. Actually, it's now called Magnite.

1:28.8

And then who else do we hear from?

1:30.6

We heard two different publishers, executives.

1:33.9

So we kind of gone down the list.

1:35.2

We've had one expert witness, computer science professor from Carnegie Mellon.

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