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And warning, this episode contains discussion about the murder of two children.

Sometimes it is difficult to find experts to speak about the Richard Allen case and sometimes

it's not.

Shay Hughes, who works as a public defender in Tibbock, New County, which borders Carroll

County, regularly posts terrific legal analysis about this and other cases on Instagram and

Twitter.

You can find him by looking for who's your public defender on either of those sites.

After reading some of his posts, we knew our audience would be interested in hearing

from him and we were delighted when he agreed to speak with us about the Delphi case,

whether or not he expects Allen to face the death penalty and a host of other related

subjects.

My name is Anya Cain, I'm a journalist.

And I'm Kevin Greenley, I'm an attorney.

We first connected while looking into the Bergerchef murders and Indiana cold case.

Together, we built a spreadsheet documenting hundreds of cases of restaurant-related homicides.

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