Content warning, this episode contains discussion of the murder of two girls.

Is part of our efforts to try to illuminate the different topics involved with the Richard Allen case,

we've been talking to a variety of experts to get their thoughts and analysis.

Previously we spoke to a criminal defense attorney from the southern half of the United States.

Today we'll be speaking with another criminal defense attorney from the western half of the United States.

This is a criminal defense attorney who has 25 years of experience.

He has been involved with a number of high profile cases and has also taught trial practice at law school.

He asked that we do not use his name but we verified his identity and his qualifications.

My name is Anya Cain, I'm a journalist.

And I'm Kevin Greenley, I'm an attorney.

We first connected while looking into the Bergerchef murders in Indiana cold case.

Together we built a spreadsheet documenting hundreds of cases of restaurant-related homicides.

That original spreadsheet gave way to our podcast, the murder sheet.

Now we maintain that same research-centric investigative approach is we look into all sorts of homicides,

including unsolved cases, historical crimes and of course restaurant murders.

We don't just chat about the headlines, our podcast is a platform for our journalism.

The murder sheet focuses on investigative reporting, thoughtful analysis, thorough research and in-depth interviews.

We're the murder sheet.

And this is The Delphine Murders, a conversation with another defense attorney.

The Delphine Murders

The Delphine Murders

The Delphine Murders

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