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Rational Security

The "Definitely not Indefinitely Suspended" Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

News, Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, Politics, Government, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

President Biden says he will raise the cap on refugees admitted to the United States. A federal judge accuses the Justice Department and former Attorney General Bill Barr of misleading her and Congress about the advice he got on whether to charge former President Trump. And an oversight board decides Facebook was right to suspend Donald Trump, but leaves open the question of whether to permanently kick him off the social media platform. Special guest Kate Klonick joins us to discuss!

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0:00.0

Ben I see you are embedded today. I am embedded. I am lying in a bed. Where is

0:08.8

this bed you are lying in? In a hotel room in Miami Beach. I de-camped. This is

0:17.0

my first travel since the pandemic began and I decided it was time to take

0:24.4

law fair on the road and so I am indoors today only for rational security

0:31.8

listeners. And you left Tammy behind to just wallow in Washington? Why? Because I am

0:39.9

not yet fully immunized. That is coming soon. But I have to say Ben for a guy in

0:46.8

bed in Miami Beach. You don't sound relaxed enough. You had every opportunity to do

1:00.3

rational security by the pool. I could have and then you guys would be complaining about

1:06.4

the sound. That is probably true. Fair.

1:17.1

Hello and welcome to rational security. The definitely not indefinitely suspended

1:23.0

edition. I am Shane Harris. I am not in Miami. Nor have I been indefinitely suspended

1:28.1

from Facebook. Yet. I haven't even been temporarily

1:31.9

suspended from Facebook. I have never been suspended from any social media.

1:37.9

I have been banned from Facebook not once but twice. Both times for the same thing.

1:43.6

Is this an accident, wasn't it? Yes. Nothing you did that was wrong.

1:48.4

Well, I included QAnon content on Facebook because I shared the enluo fun show where we

1:57.7

had Adrian LaFrance, the executive editor of the Atlantic talking about an article that

2:03.6

she'd written on QAnon. And so that caused me to get banned twice from Facebook despite

2:10.7

the intervention of senior management. This seems like to point to a flaw in the algorithm.

2:15.7

I'm just going to throw that out there. But you know, I was going to raise it with the

2:20.0

oversight board and litigate it up to the top. But they reversed course and fixed it

2:26.4

before I had the chance. I think there's an increasingly long list of topics that if

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