Hello there. It's Chuck Todd. Another episode of the Chuck Todd cast. Got a interesting and fun one for you today, fun interview with Marisa, Giorgio and John Tester. Marisa is a longtime journalist based out of Montana. And she and John Tester started their own podcast earlier this year, as she jokes.

They both were looking for work after the election and both being Montanans and knowing each

other for a while. They've started a fascinating new podcast that tries to, you know,

take advantage of the fact that too much of political coverage is based out of D.C. or New York and not enough

everywhere else. Well, they're both based in Montana, different parts of Montana, as you'll

learn. But it allowed for a fascinating conversation on the future of independent media, the future

of the democracy, the future of the Democratic Party, given we have John Tester there. So I think you're going to enjoy the

conversation, so I urge you to stick around. But look, I am coming to you, middle of the week here.

Washington is beginning this weird situation over the next 72 hours. It becomes, some people call it nerd prom.

It's White House Correspondents weekend.

There's all sorts of people coming to town, all sorts of entities, throwing parties.

So one thing is for sure, gossip will be sort of lots of gossip out there.

But I'm not here to tell you about the White House correspondence gossip.

I'll just tell you this about the dinner.

The older I get, the less interest that I am in the dinner, of course, when you're young

and new to Washington, you can't wait to get invited to these parties, and you're always

trying to sneak in.

And then, of course, you hit a certain age that literally it's like the old, I think it's a, I think it's an old,

it's an old, I want to say, it's a groucho Marx expression. I don't know if it's his or not, but it's

something like, if you're inviting me to the party, it must not be good anymore. And it's like,

now that I'm invited to these things, you don't want to go. When you couldn't be invited, you couldn't wait to go.

It kind of is the attitude I have. And I think it's, we've discussed this. I have you guys hopefully,

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