This is the Jocco debrief podcast episode nine with Dave Burke and me, Jocco Willink.

And we have a leadership consultancy, which is called echelon front. And what we do is we work

with a bunch of leaders. We also have an online training platform where we discuss leadership all

the time. And oftentimes Dave and I will debrief the scenarios that we see that we go through,

that we solve, we'll have whether it's a late night phone call, an early morning phone call,

a mid day phone call, the debrief some situation. And a while back, I thought it would be kind of

cool to record some of these debriefs. And hence the debrief podcast, giving the opportunity for

everyone to learn these lessons. So Dave usually picks a couple of subjects, but this time it's my turn.

So I had a couple of subjects come up and I wanted to talk through some of them.

You know, I'm not even going to set up the scenarios as they were. Dave usually sets up the

scenario. I'm not even going to do that. I'm going to get right to the meat of what I wanted to

talk about. So the first one is what I call the prioritize and execute hamster wheel.

We all know the idea of a hamster wheel you're running in place, you're not going anywhere.

Here's the thing, people that we work with understand our principles. They know our principles.

They know the four laws of combat. Covern moved simple, prioritize and execute, decentralized

command. They know these things and they execute these things. So that's a very positive thing.

But there are times where they might get a little bit caught up in the principle without taking a

step back and seeing the bigger picture. So in this particular scenario, there was an individual who

was overwhelmed with what they were doing at work. And they were working and said time and time

again, you know, I'm prioritizing execute and prioritizing executing, but I feel I still feel

like I'm getting overwhelmed. And I don't know how long I can keep this up. And my effectiveness

is a leader is going down. So I don't know what else to do. I've got all these things coming at me.

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