This is the Jaco debrief podcast episode six with Dave Burke and me, Jaco Willink.

So Dave, we got some more debriefing to do.

We didn't get through my Gettysburg debriefs that I had for you.

So if you haven't listened to the logic, go back to episode five.

But moving into some of the other things that I had on my list that I texted to you

and said I got some debrief points for you.

So the next one that I wanted to cover is, again, this is something that's in leadership strategy and tactics.

And I believe it's fairly well spelled out.

And I've been briefing this a lot lately in the current environment that we're in.

It's 2020 right now.

There's a virus that currently seems like a, it's a world, a world impacting virus.

And so we've all been dealing with it and I've been helping people make decisions and maneuver their companies.

And one of the things that I've been talking a lot about is iterative decision making, which is a good way to lead in unknown circumstances.

And what you do is you basically make a small decision and then you take a small step in that direction.

And what I realized during this Gettysburg, during this Gettysburg battlefield walk that we did discussing the various leadership groups,

including the various leadership decisions that were made, was there was certain situations where leaders on the battlefield could have made small moves instead of big ones.

And in no case did they do that?

I mean, I'm sure I'll find some eventually, but in the major movements that were made, especially the major mistakes that were made,

there's no time where someone made a small decision and made a small step in that direction.

So what I was saying, and again, I'm there with almost the entire, well, the bunch of people from Ashlandfront, it's me, it's Lafe, it's Mike Sirelli, it's, who else was there?

Oh, Steve Ward, Jason Carter and Jamie.

So like we've got this big crew there.

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