This is the Jocko Debriefed Podcast episode 28 with Dave Burke and me Jocko Willink and we have a leadership consulting company.

It's called Echelon Front and at our company we do debriefs when we work with clients and help them through their

leadership issues and when we do those debriefs we learn and we want everyone else to learn as well.

So that's what this debrief podcast is.

Of course, we change the names that we use

and the industries and we modify the situations

to protect our clients to make sure that their stories

don't leak out there into the world but the leadership issues are what is the

topic and they stay the same regardless of how the story changes.

So with that, Dave, let's debrief, what he got?

Being in charge doesn't make you right.

Accurate, accurate.

And that's the topic for this one.

We're working with the company.

It's a big irrigation company, big, big, big company.

And the foreman I'm working with in this particular case

the type of work they do is really high end it's high dollar high pressure they work with

government contracts pretty stringent and big big projects so they've got a foreman and all throughout the country but in this particular case this foreman is responsible

for going around to all the different sites in his area and essentially just making sure the work is done correctly per the

contract and getting it done on time pretty straightforward. Lately he's been

getting frustrated because as he goes at these individual sites these

individual locations,

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