The Debate: Israel Gaza - What happens when the war ends?
The Documentary Podcast
BBC
4.3 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2023
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
The BBC’s Mishal Husain is joined by a panel of guests to discuss what happens when the Israel Gaza war ends. On the panel are Jeremy Bowen, BBC International Editor; Daniel Levy, director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at the European Council on Foreign Relations; Lord Ricketts, former chair of the UK’s intelligence committee under Tony Blair and former national security adviser to David Cameron, former national security advisor and chair of the Joint Intelligence Committee; Ghada Karmi, Palestinian academic and author and joining from Washington Evelyn Farkas, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for President Obama.
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| 0:19.8 | Hello and welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service. |
| 0:24.4 | I'm Michelle Hussein. |
| 0:25.8 | We are many weeks into the current conflict between Israel and Hamas, |
| 0:30.6 | but in the debate you're about to hear, I ask with the help of a panel, what happens when |
| 0:35.7 | the war ends? |
| 0:37.3 | One day the current devastating phase in the long story of Israel and the Palestinians will be over. |
| 0:43.2 | Thousands of people have already been killed in the last few weeks and millions of others |
| 0:47.4 | have been affected in one way or another. |
| 0:50.3 | All 7 million Israelis and 7 million Palestinians, as well as people who feel connected to or are connected to the region elsewhere in the world, including here in the UK. |
| 1:01.0 | On both sides there is a past and a historical context, the worst massacre of Jews since |
| 1:06.8 | the Holocaust, decades of displacement and occupation for Palestinians, but there surely has to be a future too, at least a vision of a different, better future. |
| 1:18.0 | This phase has not only killed innocent people of all ages, but scarred the young. |
| 1:23.4 | From 23-year-old Hirsch, last seen with part of his arm blown off and being transported away |
| 1:29.1 | from southern Israel, to 8-year-old Emily, also believed to be a hostage of Hamas. In Gaza, 2-year-old |
| 1:36.4 | Fatima's legs had to be amputated after she was trapped in the rubble after an |
| 1:40.5 | Israeli strike, and 13-year-old Am Amira who was caught in a bombing as she |
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