BBC OS Conversations: Hate against Jews and Muslims
The Documentary Podcast
BBC
4.3 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 18 November 2023
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
The war in the Middle East between Hamas and Israel continues to cost many lives. It is also increasing tensions and anger around the world.
Hundreds of thousands of people have taken part in protest marches; there are reports of a rise in Islamophobia and antisemitism in some countries; and an increase in hate crimes.
We hear from Muslims and Jews living in the United States and Europe. Some of our Jewish guests say they would feel safer in Israel and the war, than in the country where they currently live.
“I don’t order anything, not an Uber, not a taxi, in my real name anymore,” says 20-year-old student Deborah Kogan, who lives in Berlin. “Not because I’m a Jewish activist, but also because my name sounds very Jewish, especially in Germany. So I’m afraid to get recognised as Jewish.”
Host James Reynolds also hears about the impact of Islamophobia on three Muslims living in Germany and the United States. They talk of how some people perceive them with suspicion, associate them with Hamas and call them a terrorist.
“I’m on a campus that an Arab-Muslim student experienced a hit and run and was told ‘F you and your people’, says Arab American University Lecturer Maytha Alhassen in California. “He was wearing a shirt that said in Arabic, Damascus. So that’s terrifying.”
A co-production between the BBC OS team and Boffin Media.
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| 0:00.0 | Sport, but not as you know it. Yes, you're good enough. We wish we could take you, but you're a girl. |
| 0:08.0 | Amazing sports stories from the BBC World Service. The rules were holding her back so she would have to rewrite them |
| 0:15.9 | listen now wherever you get your BBC podcasts hello I'm James Reynolds welcome to |
| 0:21.8 | the documentary from the BBC World Service. |
| 0:24.8 | Since the Hamas-Israel conflicts began, countries across the world have recorded an increase in religious hatred. |
| 0:32.0 | Here we bring together Jews and Muslims from the UK, Germany, |
| 0:36.2 | Pakistan and the United States to discuss anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. The war between Hamas and Israel continues to have consequences and reverberations around the world. |
| 0:50.0 | People living in many countries report a rise in Islamophobia and anti-Semitism |
| 0:54.9 | and it is those experiences that will hear about from both Jews and Muslims who come from |
| 0:59.2 | Pakistan, Europe and the United States. |
| 1:01.8 | I'm on a campus that a Arab Muslim student experienced a hit and run and was told, |
| 1:09.8 | F you and your people. |
| 1:11.6 | And so that's terrifying. |
| 1:15.0 | We'll hear more in just over 10 minutes time from guests who identify as Muslim or Arab origin about the hate, |
| 1:22.0 | Islamophobia that's being directed against them. |
| 1:26.2 | We start though with experiences of anti-Semitism, in short hatred directed at Jews. |
| 1:33.0 | Since the conflict in Gaza and Israel began, |
| 1:36.0 | Jewish communities around the world have reported increases in hatred, |
| 1:39.0 | anything from graffiti on Jewish centres to verbal abuse to violence. |
| 1:44.0 | In Paris the other weekend, 100,000 people marched against anti-Semitism |
| 1:49.0 | and France has recorded more than a thousand anti-Semitic acts since the deadly attack by |
| 1:54.2 | Hamas in Israel on the 7th of October. This has been mirrored in part in |
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