Hey there. It's JVL. On the show today Sarah Longwell and I talked about the debate and the mug shot and the all

All of the bad things from this week. Here's the show. Okay, talk to me about.

Okay, uh,

talk to me about Scott a little bit because on the one hand he should drop out if we want to consolidate.

On the other hand, his incentives are to keep running because he wants to be vice president,

which mystifies me.

But also because he only is one funder that really matters, which is Larry Ellison.

And so long as Larry Ellison is going to pour Oracle money into this instead of on his yacht, then Tim is good to go.

Is that a problem that you can't move him out?

It is a problem.

I think it depends on what the dynamic, if there's any dynamic shift after this.

I suspect there's going to be some toward Mickey.

And you're right though that he wants to hang in for the VP slot,

and so I don't know that he gets out.

But he could bleed, like he could go from, so his stakes were high as we articulated on Wednesday show because I thought he was best poised to move into the second place spot along with Vivic like it was sort of unclear

which way that could go and the reason is it is actually from an evangelical standpoint.

He is the evangelical that seems to be the most of interest to the folks in Iowa.

And so you're really at this point, it's all a question of Iowa,

not everywhere else.

Because Chris Christie's in second place in New Hampshire,

and nobody thinks that means anything about the race.

But if somebody beats him or you know it becomes a two-person race in

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